Interview: Shan Wallace

By Lia Latty

Published December 4th, 2020

© 2020 Lia Latty
© 2020 Lia Latty

Did you always know you wanted to be a creative and a photographer?

SHAN: No, I actually spent most of my life playing basketball. So I’ve played basketball professionally and that was like, what I did in the world, and as an athlete you don’t get to split your time between different disciplines or different careers if you’re an athlete. Your sport is your life, so I spent most of my time playing basketball and then sometimes when I had off time, like my first year off from college I played around with cameras when I worked at Best Buy. So there were points in my life where cameras and photography was a part of that moment but it wasn’t something I was pursuing full time. I took my first photograph when I was eight, and then I think I took my next photographs in like 2010 when I met one of my friends who was a photographer, and he inspired me to be a photographer. I feel like that was my first time having a photography community with him, but then from there I just kept playing basketball, so I just dabbled with it in and out. Then I started doing a lot of entertainment photography, cause I worked at Sirius XM, then I used to work for Rams Head Live, so I did a lot of concert and entertainment photography. So throughout the entire decade that I’ve been a photographer, I dabbled in different genres of photography. Just maybe five years ago is when I started to pursue art. I think five years ago was when I realized that I wanted to be an image maker, and that could be still photography, it could be moving frames. But I knew I wanted to be an image maker.

What is your process like when you’re working with people you photograph?

SHAN: My process for working with people looks different depending on the person, depending on the zipcode, depending on the city and the state, the country and the continent; it all looks different when I’m abroad. There’s a language barrier most times, like I’ve spent some time in Cuba, I don’t speak Spanish well, but I have photographs so I was able to communicate in some way. When I was in South Africa they spoke eleven languages, English being one, so there wasn’t much of a language barrier but it all depends. Here in Baltimore, sometimes it looks like me seeing a sitter, or a subject, and pursuing them, introducing myself, telling them what I do and that I wanna take their photograph. Sometimes I observe and then I photograph later, sometimes the photograph is the end result. There’s a lot of work that has to be done to get the image that I want, meaning I have to be able to communicate to people, talk to people to build that trust to meet them where they are. And I think that much of my work is a reflection of the interior work that I’ve done on myself and also the interior work that I’ve done to be able to communicate properly to people. So ideally, it looks like me being outside, walking the streets, observing, watching people, talking to people, confiding in people. Much of what I do is built on community and extending the relationship beyond just the photographic process. The process certainly varies if I’m shooting digital or film, it’s much slower with film, it’s more intuitive with film, it’s much more intentional with film because everything is manual. The film cameras that I use don’t have light meters and I don’t actually own one either so much of it is very slow, then with digital I can maybe make 20-100 images that I like in a day, so the process certainly varies.

How do you define your relationship with photography?

SHAN: My relationship with photography is a pretty strong balance and intimate, sometimes obsessive relationship. I know photography and art has been a life saver for me, it’s been able to get me out of some situations, it’s been able to educate me, take me to a place in my personhood that I’ve wanted to be. It’s allowed me to travel the world and be of service to Black people, which is a factor that’s in my natal chart, it’s a factor that’s a part of just who I am as a person, being able to be of service. I say it’s a “balance” relationship because I allow photography to teach me so much, and what it teaches me I like to reciprocate that as well. When I learn things, I work to teach my students that in photography. I also try to apply it to things that I learn into the lens, into the bodies of work that I make, so it’s a pretty balanced, loving, and intimate relationship. The work that I do is very spiritual, it is not material at all and so it goes beyond the material factors, instead it connects me to ancestors, it connects me to my people, it connects me to myself. Photography and art is really in line with what I wanna do for the rest of my life.

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How do you navigate the world of contemporary photography?

SHAN: The way I navigate the world of contemporary photography is I don’t listen to the noise. The noise could be people’s misinformed perspectives or their projections. I make work that is important to me. I try to critically think about the work that I make. I align myself with a tribe of people who hold me accountable, so when I’m not abiding by my values of integrity I’m being checked by them. Integrity guides me to be the photographer that I am to make the work that I make and to extend what I do beyond photography. So my ways of really navigating the contemporary photographic world is by thinking my own thoughts, making my own images and ensuring that when I photograph Black people I’m photographing them with care.

What does it mean for you to photograph the people of Baltimore?

SHAN: Well, I was raised by the city. I lived here a majority of my life. My parents are from here, most of my family’s here. I have all of my experiences of who I am as a person and who I’m wired as a person coming straight from Baltimore, so it’s always an honor to photograph the city. Each photograph I’m grateful for. Each time someone gives me consent I’m grateful for. Being able to not only photograph the city but archive the city as well, it’s history, it’s ongoing history, the history of just our ordinary people; as well as the history of the events that happen here is a pleasure. What I do here in Baltimore I do I do in other places; I’ve done it in Detroit, I’ve done in Charlotte, North Carolina, and so I’ve always taken Baltimore wherever I go with me, but being able to photograph this city is a dream and it’s a pleasure because I love the city, I love the people. I care so much about the city and I care so much about us being a part of this history and having our lives and experiences, our voices, our narratives solidified in a larger archive but also in a Baltimore archive as well.

My work is done in collaboration with the community, it’s done for the community.

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How did “Sisters With Stories” come to fruition? What does it mean for you to highlight Black women within this project?

SHAN: Sisters With Stories actually came at a time of reflection. I had just finished a show in (unknown) that was received really well; I got an award for it. I realized in my bodies of work, in my archive, I didn’t have just as many images as I should have of women. Sisters With Stories is centering women only, and it was a way to hold myself accountable. It was also a way to make sure I am putting in extra focus, energy, and effort into Black women. Most of what I do speaks to Black people as a whole, but I realized that there’s so much more that I wanna do with and for Black women, so that’s how that came about. I’m a Black woman, I’m a Black gay woman so I have a lot of love for Black women romantically but also sisterly and communually. Photographing Black women isn’t outside of what I wanna do, it’s certainly aligned with what I wanna see in the world and I wanna see more images of Black women. Outside of being in a company of a man, outside of pain and brutality, outside of those mythical notions that are constantly perpetuated every day. Sisters With Stories is meant to just archive Black women and especially archiving us in a way that’s done with care, but also done with intention. The focus is just all Black women: trans Black women, queer Black women, older Black women, young Black girls. So as a Black woman it’s just in line with what I wanna do and what I do already.

As a Black creative, how have you navigated the photo world/industry?

SHAN: I think what’s helped me navigate all of the worlds, the commercial world, the film industry, the art world; I just stay true to myself. I have my own voice, I have my own thoughts, and I have integrity. My integrity is not meant to be bought, my integrity is not to be compromised. My integrity is only meant to evolve. So when I stay true to my integrity, when I stay true to my values, what’s meant for you will happen for you. I have to always stay true to what I believe, stay true to my integrity, and that determines what I do and what I don’t do. I don’t compromise my integrity for a check or for a collaboration, and that collaboration could be a large commercial brand, it could be a small local brand. I think what gets me through it is I’m also transparent; I’m transparent about the type of work that I do, the type of people I wanna be in service in, I’m transparent about how I feel about most things, I’m transparent with my values and my integrity. My work is very transparent and is not performative. My work is done in collaboration with the community, it’s done for the community. My creative pursuits and impulses are also very transparent, I’m very transparent with my process, very transparent about the end result. Transparent on what I want to happen: accessibility, community; asserting Black people into museum spaces. Transparency and integrity is what keeps me grounded when I’m operating as I’m navigating all industries.

What do you hope people take away from your imagery?

SHAN: Well, I hope that I have a large enough archive of Black people that future scholars, future students, Black people in general, Black aunties, Black grandmothers; I hope that I have enough work that they can take pride in, that they can reference, that can be used to tell stories or used to be included in future collaborations even after I’m gone. But I always hope that Black people are feeling prideful when they see my work, that they’re feeling proud to be Black, that they know that someone cares about them. That they know that they’re being included and collaborated with. My goal is to never exploit anyone or take an image that they wouldn’t like. My goal is to always show what it really is and to work with them. So I just always hope that people feel included. I do this now but you know, when you die things change, but I’m always hopeful that my work is always accessible. Now and in the future.